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A critical look at Polaris quotes

gregor — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:34:47 -0700

Posted by gregor

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A critical look at Polaris quotes

gregor — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:19:49 -0700

Posted by gregor

" Being immersed in the moment, as much as you can be, is an easy way to bring joy to your life. "

True, yes like painting or cooking etc.

How about, "to cook a meal is to immerse yourself in the moment. Immering yourself in that process will *eventually* lead to a resolution, and with concentration and guile you will find greater joy in that moment."

Hmmmm?? Its quite hard to do, the quotes.

"Put your hand to the plough and surely the field will be fairer after your effort." Om.

A critical look at Polaris quotes

gregor — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:12:22 -0700

Posted by gregor

"If you are instead simply relaxing into the "I AM" of Who You Are, then the need to keep yourself so tightly bound to a single path will fall away, and the resistance that you conjure up about feeling certain things and looking at certain things cannot help but dissipate."

This is basically right. But relaxing into the I AM ness is very hard to do deliberatly.

(I hope I am not causing offense by writing these things) :S

A critical look at Polaris quotes

gregor — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:07:23 -0700

Posted by gregor

" There are no limitations. Any limitations that you perceive are simply of your own making. "

I don't mean to cause an offence. But I have found that quotations can cause problems if they are taken at face value, and also that spirituality has allot of "truths" that can cause humans a lot of problems.

People are like onions, you can't remove all limitations or believe that any limitions do not exist for anything more than a few moments.

Limitations are like lessons and people should not be encouraged to give up there limiations on the basis of spritual untruth, until a time when the limitions is naturally resolved, often in a step by step process.

" The more consciously you can make the choices that impact your life, the more closely you are aligned with that inner core of yourself, and the more joyfully you can live your life. "

This can cause resistance in a person trying to do this. It is hard to do this and often you arrive at more joyfulness in an Unconscience process.

Basically I think they are right but,
I have chosen the conscience route and it often ends in resistance. I think it is better to not fight an unconscience process.(????)

Tune

gregor — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:36:15 -0700

Posted by gregor

Good Tune.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmGWziNoKEU

I guess that's what I think

"Flow"

alisa — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:03:05 -0700

Posted by alisa

Thank you for your reply. Your words offer a beautiful description of a "flow" state, and offer a lovely and rich expansion of both its blessings and its implications. Very helpful and very much appreciated!

I Remember Lemuria

gregor — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:16:38 -0700

Posted by gregor

Muton Mion will live again but in a slighty edited form.

I Remember Lemuria

gregor — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:12:16 -0700

Posted by gregor

Here's what Polaris has to say:

While the author of these stories was in a classification that most people would generally regard as not sane, access to that classification gave the man the ability to perceive things beyond the usual reality that most people around him perceived. However, because of other factors and his general inability to remain rooted in his perceptions, as well as a tendency toward megalomania, the author's perceptions of what he saw and experienced were quite skewed. In other words, there are some truths to the tale but they may be difficult to glean amidst everything else he put in there that was based on things like paranoia, fears, remnants of childhood dreams, and other things.

This makes sense. He was mad. But his imagination was so full. You couldn't make all this stuff up. I am starting to see the mad bits and starting to filter them out. No wonder it scared me so much, because i read it as true. I can see what bits were "recall" and what were "twisted" perceptions.

There was alot of meglomania at times. But the badies were so scarey too me at times. Yes the more I think about it, it had loads of meglomania.

Why did that scare me So much ? On some level it seemed so true at times ?

I can see the paranoia too also with the Constant thought reading in the book.

I Remember Lemuria

gregor — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:55:29 -0700

Posted by gregor

I think that madness is a "misinterpution of perception of reality".

I have started righting stories and found it quite an amazing expericence. I would say though that the "badies" in the book rarely spoke and think that this is quite revealing; I think a plot starts to resolve (the problem dissolves for the writer) when the characters enter a dialog.

Oh well Thanks for help. :)

I Remember Lemuria

gregor — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:39:59 -0700

Posted by gregor

Thanks so much for looking into this !

And getting a response from polaris.

I read the book and recommended it to people and then got embrassed because it is a bit strange.

When i read it i said to myself,"I know this is true!" but i did think it read like a novel and not like a persons experience. (It also took me to some very dark places)

I think I am a bit mad sometimes in a very real sense and somehow the book tapped right into that "insanity".

But after I read it i thought too it didn't sit right and looked it up in the internet. The book was submitted to a sci - fi mag as a past life recall and the editor liked it but changed it allot to read like a story (Action Story)

The guy was insane for 8 years and spent a long time in a mental instuition. But he also claimed to be able to channel memories from lemuria through his weilding gear he used at work.

The stories about the dwarfs and 80 foot woman did seem a bit strange and the meglomania of saving the earth did seem not like a real life experience.

But after reading it,I was really, really scared for days. I beleived it was true so much at the begining that when i got to the scarey bits i was already hooked and then "belived" this bit true by default.

I wanted to beleive the earth was as colourful as this once in its history, with animal/human crosses and the ablitly to really heal people and improve life. It was just that it "decended" into what seemed like pure fiction at times.

I dont know why it affected me so much. But it is worrying it was written by a person who was insane. The trouble was I remember that place, maybe THAT was what rung true as real to me. (SHIT)

I feel sorry for the guy.

It seemed like a coping mechanism. The story when it was published was very, very popular. I supose you could say, yes there was an 80 foot woman in it :) in a guys sci-fi magazine.

But the darker elements all seemed like a way of resolving problems that the man had.

It would be nice to understand the stories characters though the eyes of polaris. To see what was what through an unmad lens.

Anyway, I would say to people, have a look at the start of the book, but dont read too much. It starts off nice and then goes into "madness".

Thanks

"Flow"

lightspring — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:23:19 -0700

Posted by lightspring

Flow is a state of non-resistance. You can think of it as surrender to What Is. This includes acknowledging all your feelings -- good, bad, indifferent -- about everything that is included within What Is. In this state of flow you acknowledge those feelings, as well as all the history of similar feelings and patterns from the past, and simply allow them to be present without having to do anything about it.

In this state of flow, you'll be more connected to more of your Self. As such, you open yourself to the inner wisdom that is a part of each of you, and you also open yourself more to the possibilities of What Could Be with a natural, open curiosity. We would say that a childlike curiosity is very much a part of this state of flow -- this is curiosity to know more but without judgment. You are simply open to all that is.

The benefits of this state are many. On a physical level, it brings down stress and tension that is experienced by most people on a continual basis, simply from resisting. In a state of non-resistance you'll be more relaxed physically, which leads to a more harmonious operation of the body on all levels and in all systems. Continual stress often leads to illness or dis-ease of some sort, so finding yourself in a state of relaxation can help the body revery to its natural, healthy state.

It is much the same on an emotional level. Being in a state of flow, even for a short time, acts as a "reboot" and can help you find and uncover emotional patterns of response that seemed to elude you in the past.

On an energetic level, being in flow outs you in closer touch with all the energy resources that are continually at hand. This includes your own inner guidance, spiritual guides and other teachers, and especially includes moving with the flow of your Self on a soul level. When you (on a personality level) and You (on a soul level) connect and work together through this state of flow, things seem effortless. Your sense of time is altered -- often you exist in a state of no-time, where you find yourself in the "perfect" space at all times. This state of flow is where things can be accomplished on a quantum basis and where you can feel connection -- on some level -- to All That Is.

In short, accessing a space of flow, even for a moment at a time, can help you be more human and more of who you are.

September 2010: Decisions, decisions….

lightspring — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 14:04:30 -0700

Posted by lightspring

I think this is so difficult for so many of us because it runs counter to what we think we know. As a child, when we feel the burning pain from a hot stovetop, we instinctively pull our hand away. We are wired for "fight or flight" when we feel threatened. In some ways it is against our nature to sit with something and take action by remaining in seeming inaction. It takes courage to sit with and look at what is really there underneath the desire to take action and get away from the hot stovetop of our emotions. It takes courage to change our patterns.

I am finding comfort by reaching for a connection with others going through the same thing. I don't need to know them personally; it's enough for me to know that I am not alone and that others before me have struggled with the same desire to move away from what is at core. After all, we're all human here. :)

Warmly,
Karen

I Remember Lemuria

lightspring — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:56:22 -0700

Posted by lightspring

I'm pretty skeptical about this. I looked up the book and read some of it -- it felt a lot like sensationalist science fiction to me. I believe that a lot of sci-fi/fantasy writers write from a place of access to parallel worlds and alternate realities as well as past-life experiences, but this one felt more like one guy's wishful thinking and I found it difficult to get past that.

Here's what Polaris has to say:

While the author of these stories was in a classification that most people would generally regard as not sane, access to that classification gave the man the ability to perceive things beyond the usual reality that most people around him perceived. However, because of other factors and his general inability to remain rooted in his perceptions, as well as a tendency toward megalomania, the author's perceptions of what he saw and experienced were quite skewed. In other words, there are some truths to the tale but they may be difficult to glean amidst everything else he put in there that was based on things like paranoia, fears, remnants of childhood dreams, and other things.

If one is wishing to access "memories" of Lemuria, Atlantis, or other such aspects of human history, this is easy enough to do. Understand, however, that any such memories or access to what has been will be filtered through your own individual perceptions.

The Break Up of a relationship

lovingawareness — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:56:16 -0700

Posted by lovingawareness

There is nothing like deep intimacy to connect us to the primal beliefs and greater awareness that's within us. As much as we rationalize it, our deep connections with others - starting from the primary caregiver as a child - represent archetypes, love, and God to us. It goes beyond the rational mind into the Mythos of our culture.

To me that's both beautiful and scary. I still don't know all my deep seated beliefs, expecations and fears. I can easily superimpose an archetype on how I relate to others. Is this archetype "The Lover"? Or is it something like Medea or the "Broken Healer" or "The Desperate Clinging One?" As much as I try to think of myself as rational, I know that something primal in me is activated, and when a deep connection happens, there's always something of the archetype there. There's always something about my image of God and of Love; is there truly Love for me? So I think it's the most rational thing to me to admit I'm not rational and that at these times what shows is what I most need to look at.

And yes, I also think at those times, because we're so open to this primal energy and not superimposing who we think we should be (at least not without major cracks showing in that wall) there's a huge connection available to others. There are millions of people out there going through very similar things. It helps to do a practice like Tonglen (Karen wrote about it in a blog here), which is of wishing love and compassion for those in a similar state.

I think the most loving breakup is when you're clear about your feelings, what you want, and you don't want the other to change or to make you feel any different. There's nothing wrong the other person is doing, nothing wrong with them, and nothing wrong with you. There's pain, but also love, and there's no distinction between the two. There's love in that pain if you look deeply enough, but of course it's very hard to see it in the moment.

It's of course such a large topic, but those are my first thoughts...

The Break Up of a relationship

gregor — Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:05:49 -0700

Posted by gregor

Why is the break up of a relationship so hard ?

Are there things to do with childhood memories ?

When you think of our partner and your break up, what are you really seeing ?

Does relatrionship break up have a link with ansestral knowledge ?

What is the fear we feel at the break up of a relationship. What is the guilt ?

Why when you break up with different people does the pain feel like the same pain ?

When we are in soul form (dead) do we have better relations with other souls ?

If you could *SEE* love and the break up what would it look like ?

September 2010: Decisions, decisions….

gbrecher — Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:24:00 -0700

Posted by gbrecher

I've certainly sensed this energy over the past few weeks, responding to my sense of underlying discomfort by wanting to make changes....big changes. My back-up parachute is in place, and ready to be fully engaged to propel me "out of here". And yet, I wonder if the attention and energy required to make these changes isn't almost like a form of self-medication...it takes your attention away from what is truly needing to be addressed.

Sitting and making a decision not to act is much more difficult.

"Flow"

alisa — Fri, 03 Sep 2010 12:18:36 -0700

Posted by alisa

Hello,
I would like to ask Polaris about the experience of being in a state of "flow", and its possible benefits, meanings, etc.
Thank you!

September 2010: Decisions, decisions….

Petra — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:28:02 -0700

Posted by Petra

The urge to get out of this feeling to be stuck, to make decisions, to move on is certainly increasing. And I can only tell for me, but I know I am pushed by emotions and impatience. Feels like heading through a tunnel, wanting to reach the light regardless of the consequences, instead of opening up to all the possibilities we cant even think of.
Sitting with the urge and observing what it tells showed me this stubborn kid, yelling...But I WANT it! stamping its foot.
Thx for this , Karen, that u put this in clear words.

September 2010: Decisions, decisions….

Petra — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 00:45:11 -0700

Posted by Petra

** This thread discusses the Content article: September 2010: Decisions, decisions…. **

The urge to get out of this feeling to be stuck, to make decisions, to move on is certainly increasing. And I can only tell for me, but I know I am pushed by emotions and impatience. Feels like heading through a tunnel, wanting to reach the light regardless of the consequences, instead of opening up to all the possibilities we cant even think of.
Sitting with the urge and observing what it tells showed me this stubborn kid, yelling...But I WANT it! stamping its foot.
Thx for this , Karen, that u put this in clear words.

Old Sol

gregor — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:45:51 -0700

Posted by gregor

Today by reading the book "I Remeber Lemuria" I learnt that the sun was a vast planet at one time, covered in forest and with lost of mist.

The sun's sun then died and our sun lay in space with the "wood" breaking down to carbon over eons.

Then a "burning ball" struck the sun and ignited it and life in the solar system started.

There was heaven on earth, even before Lemuria. Then the suns light started to change as the pure carbon fire started to burn heavier element that started to polute the earth.

Up to then there was no aging on earth and no disease, once the suns light changed these "un-natural" process started and the now Lemurian race moved under ground to get away from the suns rays. And also a huge evaquation of earth began.

Any ways.

They left and we where born from the wild men of the forest left behind. The Lemurians and MANY races it said would never live on a planet next to an old sun (Old Sol) becuase the particales it through off affect the inhabitance badly in the form of thought process and aging and disease.

???????????

So ? why are we here ?

1) How can a Golden Age be coming when we life next to an old sun which is decaying?

2) And does polaris live next to a sun which throughs off particals that cause disease? Or do they live in imperfect conditions?

3) Are we souls that are trying to learn to live with both good and evil within us and that is why we are on earth (with an old sun).

I Remember Lemuria

gregor — Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:29:58 -0700

Posted by gregor

I read this book recently "I Remember Lemuria" it was really good and read it in 2 day. It is available to download off the web for free, if you google the title.

It is written by a man who could remeber his time on lemuria and played a prity important role in the countries history.

It is a bit mental/crazy in places, but as I read it as true it was prity crazy.

It is worth a read if you like stories of lemuria,it talks allot about the ancient technology, but life at the time seemed pritty amazing but there seemed to be a huge polarisation between good and evil.

It kind of makes us seem like a better race at times by comparison.

Internal Monads

lovingawareness — Sat, 21 Aug 2010 15:23:59 -0700

Posted by lovingawareness

I totally agree there are a lot of people dealing with alternate ways of processing inputs and even alternate realities. When I first saw Donnie Darko, there was a huge amount of resonance. It relaxed me. Something about it felt like home. I didn't know exactly what that meant, but the movie itself felt great, like for the time I was watching, there was something I didn't need to defend against. I'm certainly not schitzophrenic or indeed any of those classifications, but there is something to be said about having access to those realities.

There's also a tendency - for anyone - to try to find the one cause for something. Psychiatrists may try to pin it down to biology, or childhood trauma, or family systems, etc. Michael students may pin it down to overleaves or essence choice at some level. But it's always multi-factorial. I tend to think "all of the above". In terms of actually helping, it's different. My limited experience with the mentally ill is that most are really tired of people trying to "help" without any real understanding or compassion. People don't see the beauty of that expanded awareness, the difficulties, or anything close to what it's like experiencing the world like that. It's funny how compassion is often considered "unscientific" and so that's a major factor in how we produce psychiatrists.

I have read a few psychologists/doctors who consider the auric/ethereal field valid in some ways because there's an interaction and perception that occurs (especially for the mentally ill) in a way that cannot simply be explained by biology or sensory perception.

August 2010: Gathering Momentum

lightspring — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:16:41 -0700

Posted by lightspring

You've hit it on the head, Marc. I think that's the best way to approach these rapid changes. What a ride!

Internal Monads

lightspring — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:12:26 -0700

Posted by lightspring

Hi Lloyd,

Thanks for your insightful comments! I can only imagine the depth and breadth of the effects upon your entire family of one member's soul choice to experience reality in such a way. I find explorations of such realities fascinating, but in terms of trying to operate within the generally-accepted reality most of us share, it's heartbreaking. I suspect we are moving toward a world where there is more compassion, understanding, and awareness, but that will take time.

Warmly,
Karen

August 2010: Gathering Momentum

marcrehula — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 09:52:47 -0700

Posted by marcrehula

'Gathering momentum' has been a good description of this month. There has been so much energy rushing through my life, and although much of it feels positive, it's been pretty exhausting. It's been too difficult to really work consciously, instead I've been trying to just 'go with the flow'.

Internal Monads

greybear — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:58:19 -0700

Posted by greybear

I hope "late" comments are acceptable as this is several months past the postings here!

I've just recently become aware of this site and have been avidly absorbing many things posted here.

I've not had an analysis done (yet) but I seem to be able to place myself pretty well from the material.

My comment is about the reference to schizophenia and the origins of such being related to the difficulties having to do with the second and sixth monad where no successful transition is accomplished which moves one toward a sense of individuality, or the ability to relate to others as different from themselves.

I have a 40+ year old son who is an extreme paranoid schizophenic. He also lives with his mother (my ex-wife). There has appeared to me to be a co-dependent relationship between them since birth. This also has been alluded to by psychiatrists we have seen over the years.

The comment about the inability to control what transpires through the sixth monad, the "third eye" appears to be right on in his case. He is constantly interacting with "voices" or influences that are apparent only to him and can only moderate this behaviour a little through heavy medication that sedates him. He also is capable of manifesting intelligence and information at times which astounds me.

Other sources have stated that this is not an illness but a matter of choice. If I can put this all together, the choice(s) appear to be made in this "lifetime" and not before manifestation.

This brings up (again) the whole spectre of parenting and (our) role in this epic experience.

We have two younger sons who are for all appearances normally advanced and quite successful, but this on-going drama with our oldest son has dramatically shaped our lives and the lives of all our family.

The other information here that struck me is the confirmation that this choice(?) is being made to some degree by 30% or more of those currently in "body". This agrees with analyses published by those who are involved with the mentally "ill". There are legions of these that are in various stages with the prisons having become the default mental "hospitals".

Thanks for this site. It is an eye-opener for me!

Lloyd

Transferance

gregor — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 02:45:26 -0700

Posted by gregor

Yes I think that is a good answer.

Transferance

earth dweller — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:26:37 -0700

Posted by earth dweller

You can heal whether it's close contact or distance, purely by intention. Whether that's transference or not I'm not sure?;)

Transferance

gregor — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 09:45:57 -0700

Posted by gregor

Can you please talk about transferance or projection and ways to healing projection ? Games you can play, things you can do ?

Is workship a form of healing/positive transferance ?

Sometimes I think all religion and pagan practices are a form of transferace, or an attempt to heal though projection ?

Can Polaris help with understanding projection ?