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I thought I'd invite a discussion about this as the forum isn't just about Karen - it's also about a community discussion. Here's something that isn't discuss as much in the Michael Teachings.

This article on Internal Monads was recently written and it's probably the most complete article out there. It differs from some other descriptions, but seems to both correlate with and complement psychological stages.

I'd love to hear thoughts about this, as well as personal discussions about what resonated, and where each of you are.

From rereading this, I realize that yes, I'm not 100% in the positive pole of either the first or second monad. I'm going through the 4th right now (which has taken years) and part of that is revisiting each of the prior ones. Learning autonomy has been big for me.

What are your own reactions from reading the article?

(it's at http://www.polarisrising.com/internal-mo...ife-transitions.html for those getting the digest)

I just took a quick read, and will need time to study this a bit more, but it is totally fascinating! There is so much to learn here, and how science, modern health and psychology could benefit from looking at us from these perspectives. We are mostly all afraid of something like dementia, either getting it ourselves, or having a loved one contract it. In reading through these explanations, it gives me a sense of understanding and a feeling that, here is the true, soul level picture of what goes on. I would put myself at mostly in the fifth monad with periods or visitations into the earlier ones as well. This would fit with info Polaris imparted to me in a recent channeling.
It's a fascinating process, and one I am enjoying, as well as enjoying following not only Karen's progress, but that of others who share as well.
Warm Regards
Ken.

I hope "late" comments are acceptable as this is several months past the postings here!

I've just recently become aware of this site and have been avidly absorbing many things posted here.

I've not had an analysis done (yet) but I seem to be able to place myself pretty well from the material.

My comment is about the reference to schizophenia and the origins of such being related to the difficulties having to do with the second and sixth monad where no successful transition is accomplished which moves one toward a sense of individuality, or the ability to relate to others as different from themselves.

I have a 40+ year old son who is an extreme paranoid schizophenic. He also lives with his mother (my ex-wife). There has appeared to me to be a co-dependent relationship between them since birth. This also has been alluded to by psychiatrists we have seen over the years.

The comment about the inability to control what transpires through the sixth monad, the "third eye" appears to be right on in his case. He is constantly interacting with "voices" or influences that are apparent only to him and can only moderate this behaviour a little through heavy medication that sedates him. He also is capable of manifesting intelligence and information at times which astounds me.

Other sources have stated that this is not an illness but a matter of choice. If I can put this all together, the choice(s) appear to be made in this "lifetime" and not before manifestation.

This brings up (again) the whole spectre of parenting and (our) role in this epic experience.

We have two younger sons who are for all appearances normally advanced and quite successful, but this on-going drama with our oldest son has dramatically shaped our lives and the lives of all our family.

The other information here that struck me is the confirmation that this choice(?) is being made to some degree by 30% or more of those currently in "body". This agrees with analyses published by those who are involved with the mentally "ill". There are legions of these that are in various stages with the prisons having become the default mental "hospitals".

Thanks for this site. It is an eye-opener for me!

Lloyd

Hi Lloyd,

Thanks for your insightful comments! I can only imagine the depth and breadth of the effects upon your entire family of one member's soul choice to experience reality in such a way. I find explorations of such realities fascinating, but in terms of trying to operate within the generally-accepted reality most of us share, it's heartbreaking. I suspect we are moving toward a world where there is more compassion, understanding, and awareness, but that will take time.

Warmly,
Karen

I totally agree there are a lot of people dealing with alternate ways of processing inputs and even alternate realities. When I first saw Donnie Darko, there was a huge amount of resonance. It relaxed me. Something about it felt like home. I didn't know exactly what that meant, but the movie itself felt great, like for the time I was watching, there was something I didn't need to defend against. I'm certainly not schitzophrenic or indeed any of those classifications, but there is something to be said about having access to those realities.

There's also a tendency - for anyone - to try to find the one cause for something. Psychiatrists may try to pin it down to biology, or childhood trauma, or family systems, etc. Michael students may pin it down to overleaves or essence choice at some level. But it's always multi-factorial. I tend to think "all of the above". In terms of actually helping, it's different. My limited experience with the mentally ill is that most are really tired of people trying to "help" without any real understanding or compassion. People don't see the beauty of that expanded awareness, the difficulties, or anything close to what it's like experiencing the world like that. It's funny how compassion is often considered "unscientific" and so that's a major factor in how we produce psychiatrists.

I have read a few psychologists/doctors who consider the auric/ethereal field valid in some ways because there's an interaction and perception that occurs (especially for the mentally ill) in a way that cannot simply be explained by biology or sensory perception.