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Conflict of will in non-physical planes 9 Months, 3 Weeks ago Karma: 1  
Does an individual will or volition persist in the lower non-physical planes, and if so, what is the nature of the conflict of wills in those realms? In the physical plane, these conflicts range from disagreement over what to eat for dinner all the way to all-out war. Has anything resembling conflict existed in non-physical existence?
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Re:Conflict of will in non-physical planes 9 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 3  
This was an interesting question!

Note: As some of you probably have noted, not everything asked gets a channeled response, often because (1) the question in some form has been asked before, so I try to give a summary or a link, (2) the question is very specific to a person so it's more appropriate to a private session, or (3) the question is very general and we know Polaris' answer will therefore be very general too, resembling general answers we know we've gotten before. So we really appreciate great questions.

In any case, Karen did some channeling on Conflict with regard to higher planes. As is also the tradition, we're also asking for help in transcribing! It's only 10 minutes long, but it helps it make it easier to create a benefit for everyone if people chip in. Please download and post the transcript here!

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Transcript: Nov_14_2_Conflictmp3 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 1  
Ron asks - What is conflict like in other planes of existence? And, how do you see conflict here in comparison?

Yes, it would be useful to explain both – conflict on the physical plane because you are tangible beings operating within a tangible system of reality has a tangible appearance. I push you - you feel it. An emotion comes up in you. It could be accompanied by a body sense and this creates a reaction. You push me back. You fall down and cry. You run to your mother. You start a war. Conflict, then on the physical plane has its basis and roots in the tangible world.

Now, there’s also more energetic conflict going on especially when there’s some sort of an invasion going on say, in different charkas.

Yes, that is correct but to us of course, both types of conflict are one and the same but that is our perception where we see all of your interactions & actions as simply being those of energy. So, a conflict of an energy dynamic has the same effect. You are not pushed by a hand but you feel an influx of energy and you have the same response. You feel something there’s an emotion there’s a body sense that goes with that and you make a response back of one sort or another. That response back could be simply energetically. You send an energetic signal “Back off!” or “Please don’t hurt me” or you try to shield yourself with an invisible energy shield; any number of responses or whatever is habitual for you. Now, conflict on other planes is going to look different. Where we exist and anywhere that is not the physical plane there will not be that element of tangibility. You understand that. There will not be a reaction of emotion or of body sense, etc. Conflict on the upper planes is simply an exchange of energy. If you were to take the elements of conflict that have at their roots, tangibility from the physical plane and bring them to their central core which is simply a shifting in energy that would be very similar to what is experienced on higher planes.

Now, to us conflict usually doesn’t feel good, is that similar on higher planes?

Since our experience is not that of separation at its essence the way that it is experienced in bodies on the physical plane, conflict is seen as simply a method of exploration. If I do this action, what happens? There are not hurt feelings and emotions and what we would term as overreactions. In other words, there is always the overriding sense that it’s an energy shift, experimentation in dynamic and at its heart it’s simply an exploration of what happens.

Would it be true to say that because there’s not the strong element of separation, there’s always the awareness you’re doing this to yourself?

Yes.

Anything else to add on it, for Ron specifically?

No, we think that is complete.

Now, that’s on the Causal plane, is conflict different on the Astral plane?

On anything other than the physical plane it is seen more as an exploration. However there are varying degrees of overall acceptance and that sense of oneness that you mentioned and those degrees will increase as one moves up through the planes beyond the physical.

Because our experience of say the lower Astral planes, there could be hauntings or energies which attach to people and don’t feel good. Now, to us that feels like conflict but you’re saying even to them it’s simply an exchange of energy?

Yes, however there is a greater degree of remembrance of the physical plane and what responses might feel like. And there is a lesser degree of what is, as you pointed out, doing an action to oneself. So, there is a greater degree of a sense of separation. The element of playfulness is also much more apparent in the lower Astral planes than it would be necessarily in the Causal plane. That is not to say that we are not playful, however, our playfulness takes on a completely different aspect and we realize that will be your next question!

Yes, now, I’m curious!

Is that your next question?

Yes, I’m always wondering about play.

So, the question is, how is playfulness expressed on the Causal plane where Polaris exists? Since all transactions on the Causal plane are perceived as those of pure energy whether they be light, or colour or energy itself, the element of playfulness is all derived from this perception. When we spoke earlier about conflict as an exploration; that often comes from a sense of playfulness. There is curiosity. What happens when “A” is performed? Is it response “B” or “C” or “W”? There is never the perception on the Causal plane that if response “A” was given the first time then response “A” would likely be given the second time. In other words, the concept of predictability does not exist on the Causal plane.

Because time doesn’t function the same way….

That is correct and predictability belongs on the physical plane. It’s a physical function.

‘Possibility’ exists?

Yes! But, predictability does not. And, since you brought up possibility, there is always the understanding of all the infinite possibilities that may exist when an action is performed. And so, the playfulness comes in (we will use an example that you will like) with the element of surprise much as does a cat jumping out from around a corner at a person. The cat, does not necessarily expect the person to respond in any way that the person has responded before and is charmed and pleased at almost any response that is given.
This is similar to the experience of playfulness on the Causal plane.



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Re:Transcript: Nov_14_2_Conflictmp3 4 Months, 2 Weeks ago Karma: 3  
Thank you so much Radhika!

For those getting this through email subscriptions, she generously transcribed Karen's channeling from a while ago.

And again for those getting forum subscriptions by email, I recently added a couple more categories, so everyone's welcome to start up a conversation on any topic desired. Doesn't even have to be directed at Karen!

Thanks again Radhika!
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